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  "The Waters" of Jehovah are drying up in Australia...65% young ones leave!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at the international convention last week i caught up with my old congregation and asked about the young ones...there were 2 answers.

  1. they flat out left got a boyfriend etc.

  and 2. havent seen them for awhile meaning they faded or went off the grid so as not to be disfellowshipped.

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  Julia' s point is well made. One becomes so indoctrinated that life outside the ORG is "too scary" and so they stay in. In essence, it becomes their culture just as much as the Amish or Yassidic Jew for that matter.

  Most, however, are not that way. Most of the kids I see in the hall are not really "witnesses" in the same way I was a "witness" as a young man. They go to clubs, party, drink way more than I ever did at that age, and do absolutely nothing to "promote Kingdom interests." Bethel service is rarely mentioned among the young men. They are interested in what every other young person wants....independence.

  I woudl venture to say that when most fly the coop of their parent's supervision, they will rarely if ever be seen at some "theocratic" activity except for assemblies to scope out chicks or get togethers to scope out chicks.
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  What Was Your Opinion of Elder's Wives?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i think that many of them were saints.

  some were bitches and others seemed like they hated their status.

  many wives were very good examples and were more "qualified" than their elder husbands.. .

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  Have seen both sides. Some were phenomenal examples of faith and christian values.
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  The Present Truth is the Truth and the Old Truth is the Truth, even if they contradict.

  by garyneal in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that is the conclusion you must accept if you are a jehovah's witness as my wife tries to explain to me that even if what they are teaching today contradicts what they were previously teaching, they had the truth then and they have the truth now.

  the difference is, they (the witnesses and the governing body) simply believed that what they were teaching at the time was the truth but when they discovered new information they adjusted their thinking.

  so since they formerly believed it to be the truth, they were in the truth.. an example she gave involved people who once believed the earth was flat.

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  In a HUGE discussion with a loyal friend who will not throw me under the bus for my current position (hopefully), this same attitude came up. He was vehement in his loyalty to the "channel of truth."

  My comment to him, "You, all of us, are entitled to our opinion. But, we are not entitled to a set of truths that are not, in fact, truths. Reality is reality, it may be perceived differently by you, but you can not deny it. It is, and always will be, the determining factor in any argument, position, or belief. Don't allow an organization to dissuade you from recognizing a falsehood or set of falsehoods by skewing your perception of reality."
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  Not on JW.org: SIX Texas victims acuse Jehovah's Witness Elder & Circuit Overseer of sexual abuse, and bring lawsuit against Watchtower for cover-up.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  sexual exploitation and abuse of six young children leads to lawsuit in dallas county.

  dallas, oct. 23, 2014 /news.gnom.es/ six young adults, from north texas, all sexually abused as children, filed suit today in dallas, texas state court against three north texas jehovahs witnesses congregations (dallas, plano, and greenville), the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, and an elder.. sexually abused when they were ages 4 through 14, the plaintiffs were children of members of the dallas, plano, and greenville jehovahs witnesses congregations.

  the suit states that they were repeatedly sexually abused and molested by an elder and an unknown regional circuit overseer, and that they and their families were threatened with discipline and harm if they disclosed the abuse to anyone.

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  Just wait until the Candace Conti issue is litigated to the full. If she wins NO amount of legal representation will be able to address the maelstrom!
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  The REAL purpose of the new 1914 explanation video...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when a dub starts to question an elder about this doctrine (at the kh, field circus or wherever), the elder will only need to utter these words: "just watch the video".... .

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  Non- event. Not worthy of mentioning nor considering.
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  Throw Out Your Blood Cards!

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  ex-jehovah's witness bled to death after surgery .

  in 2006, riddell signed a declaration that she did not want to be given blood during any medical procedure because of her jehovah's witness beliefs, even if healthcare providers believed that it was necessary to preserve her life.. she later stopped practising the religion but her brother told hill she maintained the declaration because she had researched the use of blood transfusions and made an informed decision not to receive any blood.. riddell opted for the surgery after being diagnosed with symptomatic gallstones, hill said.. parry met with riddell before the surgery but did not discuss receiving blood with her as he told hill the chances of someone bleeding during the surgery were less than one per cent.. that meant the surgery began at wairau hospital at 9am without parry knowing about the declaration, although his anaesthetist did.. it was originally supposed to be a keyhole only surgery, but parry made the decision to go to an open surgery as he could not access the gall bladder through the keyhole technique.. during the surgery there was a small amount of bleeding, which parry was unconcerned about.. the surgery finished at 11.15am and parry went away to perform another surgery.

  during that time, riddell's blood pressure dropped and fluids increased.. the anaesthetist visited parry during his surgery and told him "we have a problem, she's bleeding.

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  I know a lot of people that couldn't live the life of a witness or chose not to, only to die the death of a witness by not choosing blood. The sad fact is that most do not even know that almost every aspect of blood is now acceptable, or at least so freakin muddled is the explanation that one could easily opt to take some significant component of blood and STILL be ok.

  In any event, even as a witness, it is YOUR decision between you and your doctor. It is private and nobody has the right to know what you decide, witness or not.

  As stated, what a waste.
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  The Kids Corner at Bethel!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from a jw site.. .. a nice little corner for the young ones at the central america bethel branch in mexico.. .. .. .

  .. .. nevada!.

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  It sure looks A LOT like the Yellow Brick road.... Maybe Caleb's parents just saw the man behind the curtain. However, the look of their faces kinda reminds me of some strung out college kids
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  The Kids Corner at Bethel!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from a jw site.. .. a nice little corner for the young ones at the central america bethel branch in mexico.. .. .. .

  .. .. nevada!.

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  Heavy: Yes, it will really be a lot like the paradise there PR. We are making sure that this particular part of the park exudes the awe and majesty of what the Paradise will be like. The paradise that we are all looking forward to.

  PR: You mean, the Paradise that the great crowd are looking forward to, right?

  Heavy: Oh, yes, I forgot. I'm one of the Heavies and thus, will not be in the paradise with you. At least not in the flesh anyways.

  PR; I am so glad that you are gonna be up there looking over us. You are so personable.

  Heavy: I know. But, anyways, let's get back to the park. Look at the Naaman's Leprosy ride, an attraction that I personally designed. (oohs from PR). It is a waterslide type ride with several steep drops designed to get you wet on those warm summer days. What makes it unique is prior to every drop, the rider is sprayed with a white floury substance that will adhere to their skin making it look like they have leprosy. Then, the boat will slide down the steep incline and the rider will be "cleansed" like Naaman in the Jordan. Unique, huh?

  PR: I'll say. (Slight pause) That's SOOO ingenious.

  Heavy: I did say that I was the one that designed it, right?
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  one last step..Is being mentally out the same as being emotionally out?

  by MissFit in

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  2. friends

  we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.

  i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.

  i had been yo-young back and forth for years.

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  Mentally out. It is easier to disconnect your rational mind from the Matrix. The emotional aspect is more difficult for some. There is an emotional progression that will typically move from dismay/disillusionment to anger and than, hopefully, resolution. I am at the "angry" part of that gambit.

  I wish you the best MissFit...life is too short to waste it on woulda shoulda coulda...live a full life now, one of purpose and no regret
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  Slip Sliding Away :I went to a 1 day assembly-Why?

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have not attended anything jw related for over a year.... until last week when i went to our one day convention.. why you ask?.

  i can do what i want i'm a grown adult.. ok...ok...so my jw childhood friend who i have not seen forever, came by for a visit.. i mentally went through the check list:.

  is she pioneering and need extra time?.

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  I think that's cute. I would have gone. I still go to support family. I am mentally out, but am amused by the whole thing now. It's like watching paint dry, but sometimes there are really comical examples of the dissonance and stupidity which make it worthwhile to some degree.